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		<title>Comment on KJV Uber Alles!! by LC</title>
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		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles - thanks for your input. Agreed: Man should never attempt to add to or remove from God&#039;s Word.


Regrettably, you&#039;ve missed the point, so please re-read the 5th paragraph. The issues you raise are irrelevant to this discussion, so please focus and stay on topic. This blog only deals with the KJV you hold in your hand - nothing else. Particularly, it deals with the differences between the KJV&#039;s OT and NT. We don&#039;t need any fancy Greek or obscure PhDs to demonstrate it - we just need a Berean mindset and a 6th grade reading level.

The question is not &quot;can God keep His Word intact&quot;. Of course He can. 
The question is &quot;did He do so in the KJV and NOT in any other modern translation&quot;, which is what the KJVOnly crowd says. &lt;strong&gt;Based on the KJV itself&lt;/strong&gt;, the conclusion is not so logical.


As you well know, the Septuagint (LXX) is rejected by most scholars, including the KJV translators, because it is seen as less reliable than the Masoretic Text (MT). The problem is that the NT authors used it more than they used the MT! So why is a &quot;corrupt&quot; manuscript good enough for the NT authors, but not for the KJV translators? There are approximately 300 OT quotes in the NT, the majority of them (about 200) are quotes from the LXX, &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; the MT! Simply put, the KJV cannot possibly be &quot;perfectly preserved&quot; or these differences would not exist. 

Here are just a few of these Septuagint quotes that I&#039;ve noticed in my personal reading and studying of the Bible (in other words, I didn&#039;t find out about these by reading some nutty website.)&lt;blockquote&gt;
- Luke 3:36 -&gt; Gen 11:12 (I&#039;m unclear why you dismissed this discrepancy w/o even a comment. Cainan is nowhere to be found in the MT or the KJV OT, only in the LXX. Why did the KJV leave him out, when Luke put him in?)
- Heb 1:6 -&gt; Deut 32:43 (this phrase is in the LXX Deut 32:43 and in KJV Hebrews 1:6, but entirely omitted in the MT and the KJV Deut 32:43. Does it bother you that someone took away from God&#039;s word in your KJV?)
- Rom 10:18 -&gt; Ps 19:4
- John 12:40 -&gt; Is 6:10
- Matt 13:15 -&gt; Is 6:10
- Matt 3:3; Mark 1:3; John 1:23 -&gt; Is 40:3
(Google &quot;septuagint quotes of the old testament&quot; to find dozens more.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If you&#039;re in search of a &quot;perfectly preserved&quot; translation, these discrepancies prove that the KJV is not perfectly preserved - unless you have a less-than-perfect definition of &quot;perfect&quot;. 

So we now have 2 good questions:

Question 1: If the Septuagint is so unreliable, why did inspired NT authors quote from it? (Could it be that a bad translation is actually considered inspired and trustworthy by men of God!!?? If you answer &#039;no&#039; to that question, bear in mind that the LXX is the &quot;holy scriptures&quot; that Timothy was trained on as a child. Please re-read 2 Tim 3:14-17)

Question 2: Where did God Himself ever say that the KJV was the only inspired and accurate version and all others are incorrect?
Answer 2: Nowhere! This is man&#039;s tradition. It&#039;s putting words in God&#039;s mouth - adding to His Words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles &#8211; thanks for your input. Agreed: Man should never attempt to add to or remove from God&#8217;s Word.</p>
<p>Regrettably, you&#8217;ve missed the point, so please re-read the 5th paragraph. The issues you raise are irrelevant to this discussion, so please focus and stay on topic. This blog only deals with the KJV you hold in your hand &#8211; nothing else. Particularly, it deals with the differences between the KJV&#8217;s OT and NT. We don&#8217;t need any fancy Greek or obscure PhDs to demonstrate it &#8211; we just need a Berean mindset and a 6th grade reading level.</p>
<p>The question is not &#8220;can God keep His Word intact&#8221;. Of course He can.<br />
The question is &#8220;did He do so in the KJV and NOT in any other modern translation&#8221;, which is what the KJVOnly crowd says. <strong>Based on the KJV itself</strong>, the conclusion is not so logical.</p>
<p>As you well know, the Septuagint (LXX) is rejected by most scholars, including the KJV translators, because it is seen as less reliable than the Masoretic Text (MT). The problem is that the NT authors used it more than they used the MT! So why is a &#8220;corrupt&#8221; manuscript good enough for the NT authors, but not for the KJV translators? There are approximately 300 OT quotes in the NT, the majority of them (about 200) are quotes from the LXX, <em>not</em> the MT! Simply put, the KJV cannot possibly be &#8220;perfectly preserved&#8221; or these differences would not exist. </p>
<p>Here are just a few of these Septuagint quotes that I&#8217;ve noticed in my personal reading and studying of the Bible (in other words, I didn&#8217;t find out about these by reading some nutty website.)<br />
<blockquote>
- Luke 3:36 -&gt; Gen 11:12 (I&#8217;m unclear why you dismissed this discrepancy w/o even a comment. Cainan is nowhere to be found in the MT or the KJV OT, only in the LXX. Why did the KJV leave him out, when Luke put him in?)<br />
- Heb 1:6 -&gt; Deut 32:43 (this phrase is in the LXX Deut 32:43 and in KJV Hebrews 1:6, but entirely omitted in the MT and the KJV Deut 32:43. Does it bother you that someone took away from God&#8217;s word in your KJV?)<br />
- Rom 10:18 -&gt; Ps 19:4<br />
- John 12:40 -&gt; Is 6:10<br />
- Matt 13:15 -&gt; Is 6:10<br />
- Matt 3:3; Mark 1:3; John 1:23 -&gt; Is 40:3<br />
(Google &#8220;septuagint quotes of the old testament&#8221; to find dozens more.)</p></blockquote>
<p>If you&#8217;re in search of a &#8220;perfectly preserved&#8221; translation, these discrepancies prove that the KJV is not perfectly preserved &#8211; unless you have a less-than-perfect definition of &#8220;perfect&#8221;. </p>
<p>So we now have 2 good questions:</p>
<p>Question 1: If the Septuagint is so unreliable, why did inspired NT authors quote from it? (Could it be that a bad translation is actually considered inspired and trustworthy by men of God!!?? If you answer &#8216;no&#8217; to that question, bear in mind that the LXX is the &#8220;holy scriptures&#8221; that Timothy was trained on as a child. Please re-read 2 Tim 3:14-17)</p>
<p>Question 2: Where did God Himself ever say that the KJV was the only inspired and accurate version and all others are incorrect?<br />
Answer 2: Nowhere! This is man&#8217;s tradition. It&#8217;s putting words in God&#8217;s mouth &#8211; adding to His Words.</p>
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		<title>Comment on KJV Uber Alles!! by charles</title>
		<link>http://www.linearconcepts.com/archives/1239/comment-page-1#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 03:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;re a &quot;multi-version-onlyist?&quot;  Nothing is better than a man who is so prideful that he thinks he can correct God.  Don&#039;t like the trinity in 1 John 5:7?  That&#039;s ok, erase it.  Don&#039;t like the references to Hell in Mark 9:44, 46, or 48?  That&#039;s ok.  Erase them.  Don&#039;t like it when somebody questions you?  That&#039;s ok; tell them what a &quot;man-of-god&quot; you are and then snowball them with references to Greek, Hebrew, or your Ph.D. in some obscure, but intelligent-sounding, Bible field of study.  There is a name for somebody like this in the KJV; it&#039;s called a &quot;false prophet.&quot;  But that&#039;s ok, as a multi-version onlyist, you can just erase that phrase too as it sounds so &quot;negative.&quot;

My Lord and Savior is big enough to preserve His words forever (just like He tells us in the New Testament).  Is yours?  No?  If your God isn&#039;t big enough to preserve his words forever, it sounds like you are worshipping a man-made J.W. jesus...

Don&#039;t like this post?  That&#039;s ok.  Erase it.  That&#039;s what multi-version-onlyists do as they follow the lead of Jehudi and trash the admonishing words of a Bible-Believer with a pen-knife...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re a &#8220;multi-version-onlyist?&#8221;  Nothing is better than a man who is so prideful that he thinks he can correct God.  Don&#8217;t like the trinity in 1 John 5:7?  That&#8217;s ok, erase it.  Don&#8217;t like the references to Hell in Mark 9:44, 46, or 48?  That&#8217;s ok.  Erase them.  Don&#8217;t like it when somebody questions you?  That&#8217;s ok; tell them what a &#8220;man-of-god&#8221; you are and then snowball them with references to Greek, Hebrew, or your Ph.D. in some obscure, but intelligent-sounding, Bible field of study.  There is a name for somebody like this in the KJV; it&#8217;s called a &#8220;false prophet.&#8221;  But that&#8217;s ok, as a multi-version onlyist, you can just erase that phrase too as it sounds so &#8220;negative.&#8221;</p>
<p>My Lord and Savior is big enough to preserve His words forever (just like He tells us in the New Testament).  Is yours?  No?  If your God isn&#8217;t big enough to preserve his words forever, it sounds like you are worshipping a man-made J.W. jesus&#8230;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t like this post?  That&#8217;s ok.  Erase it.  That&#8217;s what multi-version-onlyists do as they follow the lead of Jehudi and trash the admonishing words of a Bible-Believer with a pen-knife&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bible Timeline &amp; His Story by Learn more! &#171; AncientLandmarks.org</title>
		<link>http://www.linearconcepts.com/theology/bible-history/comment-page-1#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Learn more! &#171; AncientLandmarks.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 05:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bible Timelines. Great help for understanding context &#8211; horizontal timeline. Conservative POV.  Share this:TwitterFacebookLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post.  Posted in Uncategorized [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on KJV Uber Alles!! by Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to &#039;Me&#039; (not that they will ever see this): Personal attacks do nothing to enhance your case. Reasonable discussion of the facts would. If the blogger said something wrong, please explain how and why with some factual information to back it up. An unsupported statement combined with a personal attack makes me think you have no valid rebuttal and as such have resorted to name calling. And that is just sad for Brother to turn on Brother. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to &#8216;Me&#8217; (not that they will ever see this): Personal attacks do nothing to enhance your case. Reasonable discussion of the facts would. If the blogger said something wrong, please explain how and why with some factual information to back it up. An unsupported statement combined with a personal attack makes me think you have no valid rebuttal and as such have resorted to name calling. And that is just sad for Brother to turn on Brother. :(</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christ&#8217;s Lot by Visitor</title>
		<link>http://www.linearconcepts.com/archives/1759/comment-page-1#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Visitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 03:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. Never noticed this correlation before. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. Never noticed this correlation before. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on KJV Uber Alles!! by Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The KJV is perfectly preserved. U r a herectic.</description>
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